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31 Jan 2020 00:44:49
A thought experiment:

Regardless of the argument, If you are faced with a choice to chose a side but both sides have different opinions that do not mix.

One side is a few like minded people.

The other has control over teachings, news, social media, laws, medical, science, politics, finance, land, air, space? / firmament?

Which side will you choose?

{Ed033's Note - As the control side seems to lie about everything, i choose the few side.

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31 Jan 2020 21:46:41
Yep. If you have all the control, you have all the power.

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men. " - John Dalberg-Acton.

01 Feb 2020 16:23:19
You can spin that kind of arguement any way you want. Here is a good example of doing it.

Who would you rather vote for to run the country? An alcoholic who is prone to domestic abuse, as well as smoking 60 a day.
Or a vegan who loves animals and doesn't drink or smoke?

If you picked the 2nd one, well congrats you picked Hitler over Churchill. In these kind of things you have to list everything, you can't just cherry pick one good thing from the "woke" side and then list 10 bad things for the mainstream view. That's called confirmation bias.

{Ed033's Note - That's pretty funny.

01 Feb 2020 17:48:53
OK, fair point, but I think you missed mine? . I basically meant that, the people who have control over everything get to choose what the answers are, regardless of whether they are right or wrong (in the greater picture) .

The thing is, you have to dig around, out of the MS slant on things, to find out these facts about Churchill and Hitler. And if you dig deeper enough you actually start to piece together the truth and not the MS 'spin'.

I guess I tried and failed to compact what I was thinking, into the original OP, so people would understand. It appeared obvious to me, but you more than likely think in a different way. So wouldn't be so clear.

{Ed033's Note - The mainstream people can't think like the open minded people. They can only repeat things they've heard from the mainstream.

01 Feb 2020 22:41:25
Yeah. it's not like i was expecting to actually learn anything from hsf. I have the power to regurgitate too.

01 Feb 2020 22:56:25
The fact that people argue religiously about 'scientific' facts they have been told, boggles the mind.


if a million people said/ believe one thing.

and one person said/ believes in another.

Who is right?

There is no right answer to this. It just depends on who is right. But surely the people with control are right?! .

Are you catching my drift now? or will a wet fish never wake you?

{Ed033's Note - mainstream people have to wake themselves up.

30 Jan 2020 21:20:07
Flat Earth You've Been Framed!

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30 Jan 2020 07:34:09
Dave Paulides - Missing 411 Interview - weird / impossible cases of missing people especially children.

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30 Jan 2020 21:31:32
I just watched the documentary 'Missing 411' and I can't imagine what these families are going through.

Its one thing that a nation park wouldn't keep any sort of record on people that go missing within its boundaries and then want to charge over $1,000,000 to release the files, they don't have? . But for the FBI not to consider that a child that has gone missing under these circumstances, would not be linked to any sort of criminal activity is quite frankly shocking! .

{Ed033's Note - The more you listen to David Paulides the more weird it gets and as he said there are no answers. I posted to an interview on here before where people go missing in urban areas:

Missing 411: Urban Disappearances.

29 Jan 2020 21:09:13
Ancient Buildings and People of Japan.

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30 Jan 2020 00:00:31
How hard would it be to change the history of a nation?

In today's age, I would say quite hard what, with social media, the internet and general connectivity to everything.

50-100 years ago is a whole, other matter and the further you go back, even easier to achieve. It does make you think. Well, at least it does, me. It was different back then.

Sadly, the Fomenko books are not something you can read in 20-30min sections. It needs large chunks of time to digest/ study/ research, to understand on the level that I like to understand. Hopefully I can do that soon. It does all seem linked to a few of your recent post with tartarian/ tartary history which appears to be unwanted parts that don't comply with the MSBS.

{Ed033's Note - It would be much easier if there was a huge catastrophe such as a flood. I have put up example videos that people are calling 'mud flood' before (These 'mud flood' examples seem to be worldwide). Then they implement a 'reset' and make up a fake history of the area.

What probably happened is that there was a huge flood over most of the world and a giant 'reset' took place. There may have been multiple 'resets' in the past.

30 Jan 2020 08:42:05
Yeah the 'mud flood' videos you posted are quite compelling. Think you got me on to the channel 'Wise Up' on YT? . His videos made a lot of sense and it does look like solidified mud/ ash (forming a type of concrete) covering buildings etc.

Its trying to get this one into perspective that's difficult. I think I am right in saying that every religion has it's own version of a 'Great Flood'? . And this would all tie in with the 'petrified giant tree' theory (which has made me see nothing but trees every time I look at a mountain, now, if I'm honest) .

Then we have the 'petrified Titans' and the very thorough research done by the channel you refer to on a particular mountain. The fact these people/ channels show you why they think what they do, rather than telling what is so. To me, makes it all the more convincing. It's just such a mind blowing topic.

{Ed033's Note - Wise Up is probably correct and makes sense with the ash. Yes it seems that hills can also be slag heaps from the past, but hills and mountains i think are petrified fauna and flora, with almost of it being petrified giant trees.

The Stellium7 yt channel showing the stone that anyone would have to come to the conclusion is a petrified heart with the MUDFOSSILS - The HEART of the Matter - Part 1. and the unveiling a titan series which shows a mountain is a giant petrified elephant.

If people don't think mountains are petrified giant trees then they can take a look at the hangman1128 yt channel and watch the original forest on flat earth videos.

30 Jan 2020 21:39:53
My brother, who calls me a 'Unicorn hunter', saw some of hangman1128's videos and said "they really do actually look like trees! ".

It's amazing how people (myself included) cannot see what is right in front of their eyes, because they aren't looking for it.

{Ed033's Note - You can tell him you found it now - picture below it's called unicorn nebula:

30 Jan 2020 23:00:08
Haha. I am surprised I haven't heard of that.

As I have said before, I have dabbled in astro-photography and even tough I still don't know what I am looking at, I still amaze in its wonder.

This is a link to someone I know that compiled a 400 hour exposure. I can go into the actual specs but they aren't needed. Basically if you print this to actual size it would be 8 metres tall.

Wide view of Orion: (or the Firmament in all its glory?)

29 Jan 2020 20:09:03
Space Fails proof of deception.

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30 Jan 2020 00:02:29
Not seen the 1962 footage before, is that for real? . haha did the guy who was supposed to be the 'face on the moon', forget to come to work that day?

{Ed033's Note - The question is whether in the 1960s, people would think that video is real. It's likely the fakers of it, realised they need to do better.

Will people in 50 years time, look at the current space cgi and know it's fake?

28 Jan 2020 22:42:20
Top 10 Reasons Why Greta Thunberg Is A Fraud?

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28 Jan 2020 21:46:13
"I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing." - Plato.

It's amazing how many like-minded people that wrongly tell me what I am trying to portrait, because they being conspiratorial too, know it all already. And miss what I am trying to tell them. Again falling back on the mainstream BS

The people that were awakened are falling back asleep. Are they not? .

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29 Jan 2020 21:04:42
Yes, probably some can't continue past a certain point.

30 Jan 2020 00:14:55
I got to that point around 2 months ago. Then just let go of everything I have 'been taught' and started looking for myself. Very strangely everything, on the whole, seem to make, much more sense (or what I knew made more nonsense)

I was one of the few that asked you to start the 'Space and Astrophysics' page. I can't bring myself to study that at this time. Too many things I have seen make that seem pointless until other questions are answered. Consequently, my humble book collection has taken a very, vivid turn in direction.

{Ed033's Note - It seems they've lied to us about everything we can think of and all we can do is think and investigate things ourselves.

28 Jan 2020 20:33:34
This was deleted pretty quick from the FE group on GAB. I don't know why because I haven't the energy to check right now. Can I post it here to remind me? .

Truth hides from no questions. So why delete? I will try and look tomorrow.

Catalog of Earth Satellite Orbits

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29 Jan 2020 08:27:42
As far as I am concerned there is no new info here that I did not already know. There is nothing that proves anything. I did like how they kept the same clouds for different times of day, on each perfect sphere Earth picture, when explaining a geostationary orbit. Only to later go on to explain how the Earth isn't a perfect sphere.

{Ed033's Note - It's amazing how they show the Earth as a perfect sphere and then mainstream story tellers say it's not a perfect sphere.

I guess if you ask them about this discrepancy, the'll say the Earth is photoshopped as a perfect sphere to make it look pretty?

But how would any of the mainstream people saying the Earth is not a perfect sphere explain the image of the Earth from Apollo 11 half way to the moon and what about any image of the Earth taken allegedly on the Moon?

Why do they have to 'Photoshop' the Earth, is it because as Presidents and NASA people have said, that they are stuck in "low Earth orbit"?

29 Jan 2020 19:54:54
The fact that, they have to 'Photoshop' the Earth suggest to me that it is not just humans they can not get through the VA belts/ Dome? / Firmament? it is satellites too as why wouldn't they have taken a photo of the Earth in full view?

{Ed033's Note - Yes, i think the satellites are attached to high altitude balloons

28 Jan 2020 09:44:54
Hi ya lads,

I was told that ed033 is the guy big on conspiracy theories and all so here goes.

In regards to the recent outbreak of the Corona virus in China there are many theories and ideas floating about on how it happened. And one that I found quite interesting to hear about was that the "virus" was begin used/ prepared by China to weaponise it for wars and all and a mishap during the process lead to this current fiasco.

So what say you guys?
Just interested on your take.

{Ed033's Note - I don't know. We have seen that recently China had a swine flu outbreak where they had to destroy millions of pigs. The main meat eaten in China is pigs. Did a foreign agency intentionally let out a weaponised swine flu or was it a natural outbreak?

In the past, we've seen all over the world that government agency drills have been turned into real events, such as 9/11, 7/7 and lots of others.

Did the Chinese government think that if the recent swine flu outbreak was an outside agency, they should run drills to prepare for a human virus outbreak and were the drills turned real by a foreign agency?

It's no secret that China is preparing for a hot war with America/NATO so part of that would mean experimenting with weaponised pathogens. Did they let it accidentally escape or did a foreign agency intentionally let the same weaponised pathogen that they knew the Chinese were working on out?

Is there a powerful world group saying to China that China is not doing 100% exactly what they want China to do?

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28 Jan 2020 10:57:13
Well most reports seem to imply that the virus originated from one of a few different animals, mainly Bat meat/ soup, Fox meat and snake meat have been the most covered news mainly by the mainstream foreign agencies. It also said it originated from a live seafood market. Conspiracy theories thrown hither and yonder it is.

Now don't you start scaring me with those war talks. 😂.

28 Jan 2020 15:45:51
Did Bill Gates & World Economic Forum Predict Coronavirus Outbreak?

26 Jan 2020 20:20:36
A David Irving talk about his book - Churchill's War

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28 Jan 2020 10:24:51
Really good video Southern Monkey, thanks for posting.

28 Jan 2020 15:10:20
David Irving - Smear Campaigns To Stifle Truth In History

26 Jan 2020 18:28:11
Tycho Crater shows that the Moon is not 238,900 miles away?

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26 Jan 2020 14:50:32
Part 1 of Skeletons in the Cupboard series - When the Maori first arrived in New Zealand other people were already there.

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25 Jan 2020 22:14:38
From Major Jordan's Diary - America gave any and all info, money and resources to the Soviet Union in the 1940s so they could build atomic missiles and rebuild the USSR.

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25 Jan 2020 13:23:33
Banks don't lend money.

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26 Jan 2020 09:20:30
Strangely enough I only found out about 'The Crown' of 'The City of London', last week whilst researching Fomenko related 'history'.

I discovered this City of London page.

The thing that has become apparent to me is whenever I look into ANY 'conspiracy' the age old name of Rothschild always appears.

{Ed033's Note - You don't want to be saying that word, look at what happened recently to Port Vale forward, Tom Pope. :)

Pope was asked in a tweet to predict the result of WW3. He replied, "We invade Iran then Cuba then North Korea then the Rothchilds (sic) are crowned champions of every bank on the planet."

26 Jan 2020 16:19:13
Maybe edit that to say Batman instead then, Ed? . Although I was only stating a fact unlike Pope who was predicting the inevitable.

This is why I was (or rather wasn't) saying what I did on another post on here the other day.

Things I'd like to discuss. But can you?

{Ed033's Note - None of us can discuss anything outside of the mainstream narrative.

24 Jan 2020 23:03:51
Just finished the documentary "The greatest story never told"

Had 50+ tabs open in google but they all checked out.

"I can't say its all or if any of it is true for legal purposes" - Southern Monkey 2020.

I don't really know what to say, where my legal parameters lie, online or anywhere anymore.

Maybe they have already won?

Clear as day this world is on a one way trip.

{Ed033's Note - Well done for getting through it, did you want to talk about anything to do with WW2?

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25 Jan 2020 21:02:07
Still processing, Ed. An already complex subject twisted on its head.
I don't want to portray myself as something I don't want to be, by questioning something that isn't supposed to be questioned. Which is how things appear to be. I don't know what to think really. Shocked.

If there is something in particular from WW2 or the documentary you would like me to share my opinion on, I will do my best to oblige.

{Ed033's Note - I hope you're not regretting, me putting up the video for you to watch?

I asked the question in my above reply as you originally posted; what if FDR, Churchill and Hitler were on the same team.

25 Jan 2020 21:42:19
No, mate not all. Sorry if I gave that impression. Just made me feel sick because watching this version, the video clips from WW2 made a lot more sense. I guess I'm gibbering a bit because I feel an overwhelming sense of hopelessness towards the lack of ability to be able to change anything, if these things are true. And if true, I guess that's the point.

{Ed033's Note - ok thanks.

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